 Interview
with
Muslims "Hizboul’lah Moukatilloun" and
"Al Tawheed-Ansar Al Arab Fighters"
By Maximillien de
Lafayette, Ruth Sielberg and Peggy North in Iraq and Lebanon
THE NEW TARGETS OF AL QAEDA IN THE UNITED STATES AND ABROAD: IBM,
COCA COLA, PFIZER MICROSOFT, McDONALDS and Much More...
MUSLIM TERRORISTS SEE THE CIA AS A JOKE!
ABOU HUSSEIN: “THE ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE IS ONE MILLION TIME BETTER
AND MORE EFFECTIVE THAN THE CIA AND AMERICAN SPIES!”
Photos from T to B: #1. A
training/briefing center of Hizbou’llah (The Party of Allah) in the
Islamic Southern Lebanon. Notice the slogan/public statement on the
wall: “OUR ENEMIES FOREVER USA & ISRAEL”. #2. Typical faces of
Hizboul’lah fighters and suicide bombers. Their motto and sole
objectives are: 1- To completely annihilate Israel. 2- To recapture
Palestine and establish an Islamic state in Israel/Palestine. 3-
Get rid of and or murder all the Jews and Christians and
particularly their ethnic and religious foes, the Maronites in
Lebanon. 4- To establish a Muslim Fundamentalist regime in Iraq
under the auspices of a Shiite (Shi’aa) Iraquo-Iranian Unified
Alliance and get rid for good of the Christian Assyrians (Ashuris)
and Syriacs in Iraq and Syria, once Israel is defeated. This will
lead to massive waves of massacres of Jews and Christians in all
the Arab and Muslim countries, including the Jews and the Copts in
Egypt, Sudan, Somalia and neighboring Muslim African countries.
 LEBANON
AND IRAQ- They explained to us what they want, how they will fight
America and Israel, and how they will destroy Zionism and American
Imperialism! They admitted that they fear Massad and the Israeli
agents who infiltrated many Arab and Muslim countries and
particularly Turkey, Syria and Lebanon. They mock the CIA and their
“powerless and idiot” agents in the Near East. It was neither safe
nor easy to interview Ahmad A., Mahmoud S. and Abou Hussein who are
known to their compatriots as “honorable” men and “freedom fighters”
and most certainly portrayed by westerners as bloody killers and
terrorists. Ahmad
belongs to "Ansar Al'Arab". Previously, he was a militia fighter from
"Al Mourabitoun" and "Al Hizboul' Nasiri " (Lebanese Muslim party of
the followers of Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt, created in early 70s by
Najah Wakeem, a Christian Orthodox lawyer who defeated the very
powerful Christian Orthodox Representative Nasim Majdalani of the
District of “Mazraa” Beirut, in the 1970 Lebanon’s parliament
elections. The half-dormant “Nasiri” party is based in the regions
of Mazraa, Mousaytbeh, Corniche Al-Mazraa, Al Barbir and Bastah in
Lebanon. Ahmad maintains two residences in Lebanon and Syria. He
studied at "Al Makased" high school located near “Al Barbir Hospital”
in Beirut. He earned a law degree from "Ain Shams" University in
Egypt. He taught briefly at an Arab school "Al Ma'had Al Arabi" (Arab
Lyceum) in Bastah, Beirut. Also, he is a published author and a poet.
He assured us that he has never killed an American or a Jew, but he
will not hesitate a second to cut an American's throat and blow up
the head of George Bush in pieces if he could.
 Mahmoud
is an active member of "Al Tawheed", referred to in the United States
as a very dangerous terrorist organization; a sub-organization of Al
Qaeda. Previously, Mahmoud was a member of "Al Ikwan Al Mouslimin"
(The Muslim Brothers or The Muslim Brotherhood) based in Cairo,
Egypt. Mahmoud told us that "AL MOUKHABARAT (Police or Secret
Service) of the late Anwar Al Sadat, former president of Egypt
tortured him with electrical wires and gadgets. He currently lives in
Iraq. He holds an engineering degree from the American University in
Cairo. Previously, he worked as a motion pictures set designer for
famous Egyptian stars like Ahmad Ramzi, Choukri Sarhan, Hind Salameh
and Berlinti Abdel Hamid. "I never killed an American before, but I
will kill Bush "Ibn Al Kalb" (Son of a dog) in a second.
Abou Hussein
is a "strategic operator" from "Hizboul 'lah" (The Party of Allah:
The Party Of God). Previously, he rendered his services to the Syrian
Al Baa'th party in 1976; a Shiite-Alaouit party which was under the
control of the late Hafez Al Asaad of Syria, the father of the
current president of Syria. He served the Iraqi Al Baa’th party in
1978 which was under the direct control of Saddam Hussein. He
frequently meets with "brothers" and very active anti-Israel “suicide
missionaries” in Iran, Syria and United Arab Emirates. He holds a
degree in political sciences from the "Arab University" of Beirut,
located in a predominant Muslim area, nearby the Palestinian camp of
Sabra. His two brothers were murdered by Bashir Al Jemayel’s
Christian militia "Al Kataeb" during their assault on the Palestinian
camps of "Sabra" and “Tal Zaatar”. He admits that he killed many Jews
who lived in “Wadi Abou Jmil” in Beirut and Christian Lebanese during
1958 civil war/revolt against Lebanon’s former Christian President
Camille Chamoun, and during the 15 year civil war in Lebanon which
started in 1975 in the region of “Ain El Remanneh” bordering the
district of “Shiah” in Beirut. He too, denied having killed
Americans but "Now I am fed up with Bush, our honor has been
tarnished by Bush and I am willing to do anything and everything in
my powers to kill every Jew and American I see anywhere, any time."
Abou Hussein told us.
 SEE
HOW WE CAN PUT YOU ON THE MAP!
DE LAFAYETTE
WORLDMEDIA
International Consortium of Magazines, World News Wire,
Editorials, Media Consultants, Press Releases & Public Relations.
 http://www.delafayetteworldmedia.org
rosenstein@delafayetteworldmedia.org
In brief, the trio's motto and
objectives are to destroy Zionism, free Palestine from all Jews, and
keep America out of the Middle and Near East. Strangely enough, those
three men are religious and devoted fathers. One of them is already
a grandfather. They believe in the last judgment, in “Jannah and Al
Nar” (Paradise and hell), in traditional Islamic family values, in
Mohammad as the only "Rassoul" (Messenger of God). They revere Mary
as "Sittina Maryam" (Meaning: Our Lady Mary) because she was highly
respected and honored in Al Quran in a lengthy chapter called "SOURAT
MARYAM". They believe that Jesus is not the son of God but "Min Rouh'
Allah", meaning from the breath or soul of God. They call Jesus "Issa"
as epistemologically derived from “Yashou”. They believe in Moses and
the prophets of Israel because the Prophet Mohammad said so in his
“Al Hadith Al Sharif”, meaning the speeches and dialogues of Mohammad
with his followers and Ulemas. In fact, the Quran recognized Jews and
Christians as “Min Ahl Al Kitab”, meaning “The People of the Books,
or the “People of the Sacred Book.”
Abou Hussein,
Mahmood and Ahmad love American hamburger, Coca Cola, Levi’s blue
jeans, Madonna, Britney Spears, the movies of Humphrey Bogart, Robert
Taylor, John Wayne, Elizabeth Taylor, Burt Lancaster and Jack Palance.
The greatest Mohammad Ali is their favorite hero because he used to
hit his foes and win with "KABDAT AL ISLAM" meaning: The champion
who hits and wins with the "The fist of Islam" And yes, if they have
the opportunity to live and work in Israel or the United States, they
will do it in a heart beat!
LEADERS OF TERRORISM WHO HIT THE WORLD BY THE NAME OF ISLAM
Photos from L to R:
#1. Sheik Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, Hizboul’ lah political leader. #2.
Sheik Kassem Naim, Nasrallah's deputy as political leader of Lebanese
Hizbou’ lah. #3. Sheik Mohammad Hussein Fedlallah, Hizboul’ lah
religious leader.
LANDING IN
BEIRUT
 Photo:
A Muslim day time butcher and night-volunteer freedom fighter at
Sabra (Remnant of Fateh Palestinian Camp) in the Muslim section of
Beirut.
We landed in Beirut International Airport, known also as “Khalde”
airport. Previous arrangements were made to receive us at the airport
and to drive us to our hotel located in the area of “Al Manarah”
facing the beautiful Mediterranean sea. Two gentlemen impeccably
dressed were waiting for us, as well as a high ranking security
officer from the "Al Amn Al Am "(National Security Directorate). One
of the gentlemen reassured us that shortly we will be meeting with
Mahmood and his friends. The meeting was scheduled for early evening
at a cafe located in the region of “Ras Beirut” near “Sakyet Al
Janzeer”, not far away for our hotel. Three hours later, the same two
gentlemen who met us at the airport picked us up in a Mercedes sedan
from our hotel and drove us directly to a designated cafe which
served Lebanese food, American hamburger, French fries and believe it
or not American milk shake and New York’s style bagels. We did not
know what to expect, who to expect to see and who will be attending
our interview. But so far so good. Everything appeared to be smooth
and safe. The side-walk cafe was packed. One could not ignore the
elegance of the Lebanese women who were drinking, chatting, making
jokes and laughing loudly. Ismael, one of our escorts directed us to
a table where evidently Mahmood and his friends were seated. A 6 foot
tall man, elegantly dressed, wearing a Christian Dior's tie and
expensive crocodile shoes stood up, smiled to us, warmly welcomed us
and greeted us in English and Arabic: "Welcome, welcome, Ya Ahlan Wa
Sahlan", meaning in Arabic: You are most welcome. And this elegantly
dressed up man was nobody else than Mahmood himself. He introduced us
to his friends who were equally well-dressed and kept on repeating
"Welcome to Beirut, welcome to Beirut." We did feel some warmth and
sincerity in the way he received us and more particularly in the
manner he displayed civility and courteous demeanor toward two
western ladies. Yet, we remained very cautious and alert all the
time.Without asking us what we wish to order, to drink or to eat,
Mahmood took the liberty to order a fleet of dishes of all sizes and
shapes of Lebanese favorite national specialties and appetizers, such
as “Warak Bi Arich” (Grape leaves), “Lisanat” (Lamb tongues),
“Baba Ghanouj” (Eggplant mousse), “Mejaddara Msafayeh” (Lentil mousse
or salad), etc. It was a feast to the eyes. We started to count how
many dishes were brought up, and if we were not mistaken, no less
than 40 dishes were already on the table. It was really something
unique. However, no hard alcohol was served. We ordered two bottles
of Perrier. Mahmood and his friends, to our great astonishment,
ordered Amstel beer. We thought that Muslims do not drink in public,
little did we know. And they drank like a fish! Khaled one of the
gentlemen sitting at our table assured us that "Bon Viveurs Muslims
drink as much as Jews and Christians do." Mahmood took the
initiative to tell us that he is ready for the interview. And the
interview began, verbatim and unedited; meaning printed as is,
without editing or correcting grammatical or linguistic errors.
WHAT DO THE
TERRORISTS THINK OF THE CIA?
MAHMOUD: “THE CIA IS DEAD IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THE CIA
IS A JOKE!”
AHMAD: “THE ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE IS BETTER THAN THE
CIA.”
Q:
What do
you think of the CIA? Do you fear the CIA? Mahmood: "Yahni"
(Meaning: I mean), the CIA today is nothing, very weak. The CIA was
strong in the Middle East some 25 years ago. Around 1975, the CIA was
finished in Lebanon, in Syria, in Iraq and in many Arab countries.
Before 1975, they were probably everywhere. But after 1975, the CIA
became "nothing". But, but, I know they are still in Egypt, Cyprus,
Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Many of them are now in
Iraq, Saudi Arabia, a sizable number in Pakistan, India and
Afghanistan. Actually, we know who they are and what they are doing.
And we know what we should do with them. Q: What do you
mean? Mahmood: I mean, we know how to get them "like
birds". Q: What do you mean like birds? Mahmood: I
mean it is easy to shoot them like we shoot small birds. Q:
Do you fear the CIA? Ahmad: I fear only Allah. The CIA
is a joke. The Israelis are better than the CIA. Q: What do
you mean by a joke? Ahmad: For almost 20 years, the CIA tried
to recruit Arab people to spy on the Palestinians, Abou Ammar (Nick
name of Yasser Arafat), Egyptian government, the Saudi Royal family,
Syria, Lebanon and Israel itself. Even, they sent spies to Dubai, Abu
Dhabi and Sharjah in the Arab Gulf. We know the CIA have spies in
Oman, Jordan and Turkey. We know also that the CIA is very active in
Istanbul, Saudi Arabia, India, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq. But,
they could not penetrate Lebanon, Syria and Gaza. Before 1958, the
CIA did well. After 1958, the CIA lost many agents in the Middle
East, including Cyprus, Malta and Greece. The Americans thought that
they can bribe Arab people. They were wrong. Of course, America has
collaborators and traitors from several Arab countries. But those
traitors have no access to vital information. They are stooges. We
know who they are. We have a complete list of their names. They are
either members of former Arab regimes, overthrown governments, boring
professors at American universities, journalists at Al Hourra
television station, this is another Bush’s administration joke,
or advisors at the Heritage Foundation, Council of Foreign Affairs,
and contributors to television stations in America, such as Fox News.
And they know nothing. So you see, the CIA when it failed to
penetrate our groups, the CIA had no choice but to listen to “ARAB
TRAITORS AND OUTSIDERS” who live in America. So, what the CIA got
from them? Nothing! Wrong information, false reports and false
intelligence. You see, those Arabs who became American citizens did
not return to their countries for many many years. So, realistically,
they know nothing about our operations. They are outsiders and we do
not trust them. So we do not share information with them. The
Israelis know that. But the Americans don’t, because they are
ignorant and arrogant. Q: And how about the Israeli
intelligence? Ahmad: They are much better. At least, they
know what they are doing. They know what to do. Q: Do what?
Why the Israelis are better than the Americans? Mahmood:
Mossad operates quite differently from the CIA. They are more
effective despite their relatively limited resources and means. I
will give you some examples:
ARABS AND MUSLIM TERRORISTS’ ANALOGY BETWEEN MOSSAD
AND THE CIA.
1-The
Israelis are here. They have been here for centuries. They know
the lands. The Americans just arrived with their Playboy Magazine,
cheap deodorants, tasteless coffee, funny haircut and smelly fried
chickens. The Americans don’t know the Arab countries and their
lands.
2- The Israelis
are everywhere. They blend with the local Arab communities. Anyway,
many of them are Israeli Arab or Arab Jews. The Americans
concentrate themselves and group their men in particular and
restricted areas, usually in exclusively reserved “sections” or
habitats for Americans. So, it is very easy to spot them, target
them and hit them. The Israelis are more careful and “discreet”.
They know how to hide, where to hide and how to avoid being spotted
and located (sometimes). The Americans don’t.
3-The Israelis
lived with us for so many years, so they know how we think, what we
eat, what we like and dislike, how we do business, where are our
shops, who teaches at our schools, the names of our streets, cafes
and where we meet and socialize. The Americans don’t.
4-The Israelis
speak Arabic like Arabs. Some of them have become experts in
various Arab dialects and tribal accents. The American’s don’t.
5-The Israelis
know the Middle East, they just live here. They know their way
around. They know what to look for. They are extremely familiar
with our villages, cities, roads, hills, mountains, schools,
bazaars, souks (Popular markets), trade centers, shops and stores,
infra-structure and sub-structure of our societies, our families
traditions, religion, worship and prayers rituals and protocol. The
Americans don’t.
6-The Israelis
look like us, or maybe I should say, we do look like them. Many of
them were Arab Jews from Tunisia, Morocco, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon,
Iraq, even Ethiopia and Sudan. The Americans look very different
from the Arabs. You know that already. Many Muslims and Arab
people, men and women were arrested and detained in America because
they looked like Arabs; they have become the usual suspects because
they look like Middle Easterners.
7-The Israelis
are very careful and very cautious. They don’t trust the Americans,
the CIA or anybody else. And most certainly, they do not trust
Bush, The White House, The Pentagon and this carnival of one
million intelligence agencies in the United States. The Americans
heavily rely on information provided by outsiders, free-lance spies
and what other foreign embassies tell them. The Israelis don’t.
8-The Israelis do
their own homework. They check everything and spy on everybody.
They travel all over the world and disguise themselves very well.
And because they speak so many foreign languages, they easily blend
with many different peoples from many different countries in the
world. People who work for the Israeli intelligence speak French,
English, Arabic, Italian, Russian, Spanish, German, so many
languages. And when they are in Europe, in America, in Arab
countries and Spanish countries, they look exactly like Europeans,
Americans, Arabs, French and Spanish people. Americans don’t. I can
spot an American spy at 10 kilometers but not an Israeli spy!
Impossible! Very few Americans speak foreign languages. And if they
do, they have an awful and uncultivated thick American accent.
Israelis don’t.
9-Mossad and
Israeli spies are more intelligent than the American spies and CIA
people. Israelis can think like an Arab, an Egyptian, a
Palestinian, an Omani, a Lebanese. Americans don’t. Americans are
limited in the way they think, see and analyze things. They see the
world from a very close American point of view.
10-Israelis in
general and Israeli spies in particular are international and
universal in the way they adapt to new environments. Americans
remain Americans wherever they go. It so easy to recognize them. We
used to look at many tourists and watch Europeans and non-Europeans
sitting inside and outside French and German cafes, trying to
figure out who is an American and who is not. Who is a Frenchman
and who is not. Who is a Muslim and who is not. It was very
difficult to do so. But, as soon as an American walks into a café,
we recognize him on the spot. Try to spot an Israeli agent in an
European café. It is almost impossible .
11-The Americans
brag a lot about their military operations, the successes of their
spies rings and “spectacular” accomplishments. The Israelis don’t.
12-The American
intelligence agencies constantly recruit (When they can) or at
least try to recruit foreigners who are not always reliable and
knowledgeable of facts and events. The Israelis don’t.
13-The
American
intelligence network(s) are disorganized and chaotic. There are so
many spying agencies, counter-espionage agencies, national
securities agencies, national security groups and so on. Thank God,
they do not coordinate things and share information. And as you
know very well, they hate and distrust each other. The Israelis
don’t.
14-The Americans
in general are very materialistic and vain. Those Americans who
join the CIA or the FBI, even the police in America are not always
motivated by a sense or feeling of patriotism. Many of them do it
because they are hungry for power. They love to flash their badges
and intimidate people. And if they get a better job offer, they
quit in a heart beat. They go where the buck is. This is why, we
see so many FORMER CIA and FBI agents every single night on the
American television, as analysts, anti-terrorism experts,
consultants and advisors. They quit their agencies to create their
own private business. Such thing rarely happened in Israel, except
for a few Israeli airlines safety and security experts who came to
America to work as consultants. Israelis who join Israel’s secret
service are not motivated by financial gain or hunger for power.
They do it because they want to serve, just like us, the Arab
freedom fighters.
WHAT THE ARABS REALLY WANT FROM THE UNITED STATES AND
PRESIDENT BUSH?
THE INTERVIEW
Photo: A Muslim day time butcher and night-volunteer freedom fighter
at Sabra (Remnant of Fateh Palestinian Camp) in the Muslim section of
Beirut.
Peggy:
What it would take to make peace between the Fundamentalist Muslims
and the United States?
Mahmood:
First, let me tell you something. There is no such thing as
Fundamentalist Muslims. This is a fabrication by Bush and the
Americans. Either you are Muslim or you are not. I am a Muslim and I
don't understand what do you mean by Fundamentalist Muslims. If you
mean they are terrorists, you will be making a big mistake. We are
freedom fighters and we are fighting for our countries. I read a lot
about early American wars and battles against the Indians. I mean
the American Indian tribes, about David Crocket and the Alamo. Would
you call the Americans who were with David Crocket fighting the
Mexicans, would you call them Fundamentalists and terrorists because
they were defending their lands? No! Would you call them
Fundamentalist Christians? No! I know. We, the Arabs, the Muslims we
are doing the same thing. We are defending our lands against Israel
and America who wants to change our way of live, our political system
and create a more powerful Israeli state in the Middle East. We do
not hate the American people. We only hate Bush and the first Bush
too.
 Photo:
A 4 year Muslim child (Arab boy of a Pakistani ethnic background)
with a revolver in a Muslim stronghold training center, where Islamic
ideologies, terrorism tactics and anti-Israel doctrines are taught
and where militia training is provided 7 days a week.
Madam Peggy. Look, what we want is very simple...please madam Peggy
and you too madam (talking to Ruth), please eat something, this is
delicious...you will not find this in America... OKKAY (with a strong
accent), we will make peace with America and Bush or any American
president, if America will do this:
Number one
(Counting on his fingers): We want America out of our lands. Out of
Iraq, out of Bahrain, out of Kuwait and out of Saudi Arabia. We will
stay friends with the Americans, we will do business with the
Americans, we will do import and export and trade with the Americans
but, the American forces must leave immediately. Don't misunderstand
me, I did not say civilian Americans. Civilian Americans are welcome
to stay and work here, as long as they are not spies and working for
the CIA. You understand? We have no problem with the American people.
We have problems with Bush people.
Number two:
America must stop helping Israel. I mean, America should cease to
interfere in the Palestinian affairs. Palestinians have the right to
a homeland.
MUSLIM FANATICS WOULD NOT HESITATE TO DROP DIRTY BOMBS ON WASHINGTON,
NEW YORK AND CALIFORNIA. THEY ALREADY HAVE THEM IN THE UNITED STATES,
CLAIM FUNDAMENTALISTS.
Ahmad
(Interrupting):
Yes, yes, of course. You see, America is interfering in our lives.
Why America is siding with the Israelis? Because Jews are powerful in
America. Even, the diplomats, the officials and the advisors, America
sent to Iraq to temporarily govern Iraq were Jews. And listen to
this, it is getting worse. The people who were entrusted by America
to write the "Dastour" (Constitution) of Iraq were Jews. Many
American ministers of Defense were Jews. Twelve Jewish companies got
billion of Dollar contracts to rebuild Iraq! Abou Hussein
(Interrupting): All our problems come from the United States. America
interferes in Palestine. America interferes in Iraq. America now is
interfering in Syria, Libya, Korea and Iran. And how about
Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan? Americans are everywhere. They want to
rule the world. I will tell you something. If the United States will
continue to do this, the only way to stop it is to "throw" atomic
bombs on Washington, New York, California and big American cities. Ruth:
Do you mean that? Are you telling me that Arabs or Muslims have
nuclear weapons? An atomic bomb? Ahmad: Of course, we have
nuclear weapons and many atomic bombs. Peggy: Who has atomic
bombs? Bin Laden? Where are those atomic bombs? Ahmad: You
will be amazed if I tell you. Ruth: Tell us. Frankly, I do not
believe you! Ahmad: Okkay! This is what you think! They are
not very big atomic bombs but strong enough to kill millions and
millions of Americans and Jews. We have engineers and scientists from
Pakistan, Malaysia, Korea and Indonesia. Also we have very bright
students who graduated from American universities in America and
abroad. They know how to make atomic bombs. Many of them are already
in America. As a last resource, we will "detonate" the bombs. Peggy:
The Arabs have atomic bombs in the United States?! Where? Abou
Hussein: Do you think we are going to tell you? Do you think I am
going to tell you. What do you think I am a donkey? Ruth: Who
made those bombs? Abou Hussein: They were made in
Pakistan, Korea and Indonesia. Other bombs were made in Iran. Peggy:
So, Iran has a nuclear weapons program? Ahmad: Of course. Ruth:
Since when? Abou Hussein: Since 1992. Peggy: How
can you be so sure? Saddam Hussein claimed to have nuclear weapons
and weapons of mass destruction, and yet, no weapons or chemical
arsenals were ever found in Iraq. Iranians could claim the same
thing?
AL QAEDA OPERATES IN MORE THAN FIFTY
COUNTRIES, INCLUDING THE UNITED STATES. MORE ATTACKS ON THE UNITED
STATE ARE INEVITABLE. THEY HAVE BEEN ALREADY SCHEDULED!!
Ahmad (Laughing):
Americans are so stupid. Of course Saddam Hussein had nuclear and
biological weapons. We moved them to “Baalbeck”, “Saida”,
“Trablous” (Tripoli), “Bekaa”, to Syria and Iran. Many trucks from
the Syrian, Iraqis and Iranian armies moved them 5 months before
the Americans came to Iraq. We also have many gas bombs in New
York, Florida and Michigan. Ruth: Where is the central
headquarters of Al Qaeda? Ahmad: Al Qaeda is no longer
"everything". Now, there are many Al Qaeda groups everywhere. Al
Qaeda is a concept, an ideology. Do you understand? It is a
philosophy. Faith! You kill one member from Al Qaeda, the next day
we will have 10 more new members. You cannot kill Al Qaeda. Al
Qaeda is big, is everywhere, in Saudi Arabia, in Malaysia, in
Lebanon, in Syria, in Pakistan, in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Egypt,
in Sudan, in France, in England, in Spain, in Greece, in America,
in Bangladesh, in the Gulf (United Arab Emirates), do you want me
to continue
THE ORIGINAL CHOSEN TARGETS DID NOT
INCLUDE THE WORLD TRADE CENTER!?
Peggy:
Who planned the attack on the World Trade Center in New York? Was it
Al Qaeda? Bin Laden himself? Abou Hussein: More than 3
organizations worked on the attack. Al Qaeda had the money to finance
the mission. But, the "Shabab" (Men power) came from everywhere,
Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Egypt, Morocco, Yemen, Holland, Spain, England
and from everywhere. They were chosen from our best training camps in
the Middle East, Europe and America. Ruth: You have training
camps in the United States? Ahmad: Of course, we have. And
what you have seen is nothing. Wait and see. More attacks are
coming. Peggy: You are going to attack the United States? What
targets do you have in mind? When are you going to attack?
Ahmad:
We don't know. Nobody knows. Only those who were selected for very
particular and specific missions would know about it. And, I am
sure, they will be briefed about the mission, only 24 hours before it
happens. Anyway, all instructions are usually sent to our men from
outside the United States. Peggy: Did you know about the
attack on the World Trade Center? Did you have any previous knowledge
of the attack? Ahmad: I did not. I don't think anybody knew.
Peggy: How about you, Mr. Abou Hussein? Did you know? Abou
Hussein: No, I did not know. No body knew up front, not even
those who attacked New York. It is true, the plan of attack was
already planned and scheduled in Amsterdam, Madrid and Germany but,
full details and instructions were not given to our people. They had
to wait for further guidelines and final instructions to be given to
them in New York and Miami. Ruth: So how and when they
knew. They must have known all the details and received prior
instructions to carry on and execute their mission? Don't you think
they had to prepare themselves, make arrangements, contact each
other....Certainly they needed enough time to highjack the airplanes,
watch the airports, rent cars, arrange transportations, etc.. They
had to know about the attack, the target,
the
time...They
had to get ready. They had to prepare
themselves?
THE ATTACKS ON THE UNITED STATES
WERE PLANNED IN HOLLAND AND GERMANY.
Peggy: Where were the hijackers at the time of the attack on
the World trade Center? Ahmad: They were instructed to wait in
New York. The instructions and orders came three days before the
attacks. Some of the brothers were still in London, somewhere in
Europe and outside New York. Yes, they needed time to travel to New
York. So, let's say 3 days. No more than that. Peggy: So, they
came from everywhere? Where did they meet first? Did they meet in New
York first, or in Europe. Abou Hussein: It does not matter
where and when they met each other, because they did not know what
was the whole plan. Besides, at the very beginning, each person
operated independently. This is how usually we operate. I think only
one person knew about everything because he had to take care of the
logistics and expenses. Ruth: Who was this person? Abou
Hussein: Only Allah knows! You see, New York was not the first
choice. Our men had other ideas. We did not want to kill innocent
people in New York. We have surveyed the area and knew that many
Muslims from our countries work there. We did not want to cause them
any harm. And... Peggy: Wait a minute, please. So, if you have
previously surveyed the area, and knew how many Muslims work at the
World Trade Center, this tells me that you and your people knew in
advance that the Word Trade Center was THE target...Right?
(Ahmad interrupted me and spoke with anger in Arabic to Abou
Hussein. I did not understand what he did say to Abou Hussein and to
the others). He paused for a few seconds and said: Can we talk about
something else, please? Ruth: One more thing and we will
change the subject. Mahmood: OKKAY! Ruth: Did you know
Attah? Mahmood: No, I didn’t not. I am telling you the
truth. "Waalah Al Azim", meaning in Arabic: I swear by the name of
God the majestic. Ruth: So what was the first choice, I mean
the places you targeted to attack in the United States? Mahmood:
The plan was to attack Bush first, The White House, do you
understand? Secondly, we wanted to attack the American Pentagon. We
did not want to kill civilians this time. We wanted to teach Bush a
lesson and show him that we can hit him any time, even in his own
home. But plans changed the last minutes. The third target was the
CIA headquarters. We knew that the Pentagon, and especially, the
third left wing was not well guarded. Many of our men visited the
mall at the Pentagon many many times and gathered information about
the Pentagon. Another target of a great importance was the Capitol
where members of the parliament meet.Ruth: I see.
THE
NEXT POSSIBLE ATTACK TARGETS IN THE UNITED STATES.
Peggy:
Are you planning on attacking the United States, again? Abou
Hussein: Not me. Mahmood: Not me. But somebody else
will. Ruth: Do you know who is going to be? Somebody else,
like who, for instance? Al Qaeda, possibly? Mahmood: No, not
Al Qaeda, other people. They have to prove themselves. Peggy:
Can't you tell us? You don't have to tell us everything. Mahmood:
It is going to be everywhere. And this time our people will
attack and kill everybody, men, women, everybody. No distinction. Ruth:
Any particular targets in the United States. Ahmad: We have a
long list of targets. What Bush is going to do? Guard every meter in
America? I don't think so. He is busy now with his presidential
campaign. Mahmood:
We pick
up new targets as we go. Peggy: What do you mean? Ahmad:
We mean that targets change following new developments.
Sometimes, the people we want to hit move from here to there and from
there to here, like Bush, for example. Ruth: What do you
mean? Ahmad: I mean, listen, I will give you an example. We
planned on attacking Bush in The White House. Few hours before the
attack, we knew that Bush left Washington to Florida. We could not
attack him in Florida, because we did not have plans to do that. So,
The White House attack was no longer important. What do we want from
The White House? Stones? No. We wanted Bush.
THE WHITE HOUSE, THE CIA HEADQUARTERS, THE CAPITOL AND THE PENTAGON
WERE THE ORIGINAL AND MAJOR TERRORISTS’ ATTACK TARGETS
Peggy:
So what were the major targets? The ones you previously planned to
attack? Ahmad: We wanted to attack The White House, the CIA,
the Capitol, the Pentagon. At the last minute, The White House was
replaced by the World Trade Center in New York. The new instructions
came from our people in Germany who were coordinating things. Nothing
was decided upon in America. We were watching Bush movements all the
time. Ruth: Weren't you afraid the United Air Force could
intercept the planes you hijacked and shoot them down? Abou
Hussein: Not at all. We knew, it will take the Americans long
time to intercept the planes. The Americans are never prepared. They
are so arrogant. They think nothing is going to happen to them.
Besides, we have already calculated the time needed to attack each
target. We knew that The White House was heavily protected on the
ground but not in the air. The same thing for the Capitol and the
Pentagon. Look, madam, we can attack any place we want in America. It
is a big country. Peggy: Reports show you could not attack
The White House for other reasons. Officials in the United States
claim that the pilots refuse to fly the planes over The White House.
Others claim that fights broke up on the planes and the passengers
took control of the planes. Correct? Ahmad: Not correct at
all. I am not going to tell you everything. If this is what you
think, you are wrong, so are the Americans. We had another airplane
ready to be taken from Washington. Actually, we had two airplanes.
The second one was waiting for us in New York. It is more complicated
than you think. In total, we had 5 airplanes part of the plan and
ready for us.
It was getting very late. We began to feel exhausted from our trip
and we had to call it for the night. Our next interview meeting was
scheduled for the next day at 10:00 AM at a café on Bliss Street,
near the AUB (American University of Beirut). Abou Hussein wanted us
to visit his family and have a lunch with his wife and children. And
he seemed genuinely sincere. He told us that his wife Aisha is a very
good woman and a very good cook. She would like very much to prepare
for us delicious Lebanese specialties. "She is an expert cook. You
have to eat from her hands. She makes the best Tabbouli, Hommos and
Kibbeh Nayeh (Sort of Steak Tartare: Raw meat blended with Bourghol)
in the country. It would be a great honor if you accept our
invitation. My home is your home." Said Abou Hussein. We told him,
certainly, we will come to his house, once the interview is finished.
We could not figure out, how such a warm and generous man, who is a
loving father and sincerely well-mannered gentleman could kill
innocent people and train youngsters on explosives, manufacturing
bombs, cutting throats and blowing up houses. So we had to call it
for the night. This time, Mahmoud himself drove us back to our hotel.
With extreme courteous mannerism, he opened the door of the car and
gently closed it behind us, always smiling and repeating "Ya Ahlan
Fikoum", meaning in Arabic: You are welcome. We arrived to the
hotel. Mahmood walked out of the car, went to open the car's door for
us, bowed gently and wished us good night. Then he decided, to
accompany us (inside the hotel) right to the elevators. Then, he told
Peggy that he wishes to introduce us to the concierge of the hotel
before we take the elevators. He escorted us to the desk of the
concierge and introduced us to him. A young gentleman who spoke
fluently French, English and Arabic. Mahmood told him that we were
his friends and he should take care of us. Mahmood left and we rushed
to our rooms for we were dead tired. We woke up the next morning at
9:00 AM, started to get ready and soon after, rushed to the first
floor to wait for Mahmood in the lobby of the hotel. He arrived
exactly at 10:00 AM as he said he would. This time Mahmoud drove the
car himself, no bodyguards, no entourage, except for Abou Hussein who
was sitting in the backseat of the car. This time Abou Hussein was
wearing a Levi's blue jeans and very expensive "Red Shoe" label pair
of shoes. Mahmoud was impeccably dressed and his very strong French
fragrance almost suffocated us. He was wearing "Aramis" fragrance. A
really bloody strong fragrance. But we did not mind. We had one
thing on our mind, finish the interview and leave Beirut as soon as
possible.
The second interview included Q&A about Henry Kissinger, President
George Bush, possible forthcoming attacks on selected targets in the
United States, Arab-Russian intelligence collaboration, Al Chalabi's
affair, the CIA, important information about Bin Laden, briberies at
the United Nations, alleged falsified and fake statements by Vice
President Cheney, training camps in the United States, close
relationship between Pakistan's Mousharraf and Bin Laden, possible
Arab and Muslim spies and informers who infiltrated various
intelligence agencies in the United States!!! New coalition of
Sunnis and Shi'a militia forces in Basra, Mousol, Karkouk, Al
Fallujah, Baghdad and Al Najaf to kill Americans and kidnap American
leading figures involved in the Iraqi occupation, bank accounts
opened under the name of members of Tallas family, (Syria's Tallas
Minister of Defense) to facilitate the transfer of an astronomical
amount of money to finance terrorism operations worldwide, as well
as alarming news and threats by terrorists!
MORE KIDNAPPINGS AND KILLINGS EN ROUTE!!
Peggy:
Are you going to continue to kidnap Americans and behead them? Ahmad:
This is just the beginning. Now, our brothers are kidnapping "simple
and ordinary" Americans. Soon, we will begin to kidnap and kill
really important American businessmen and politicians. We will get
every American in Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Abou Hussein: And
soon, we will destroy all the weapons and airplanes factories in
America. Ruth: You will keep on killing innocent Americans
in Saudi Arabia and Iraq? Ahmad: Of course, every single
American. We don't want foreigners and westerners in our countries.
And don't think that the Saudis are on your side. And we will kill
every Arab and every Muslim who does business with Americans. Ruth:
Are you planning on kidnapping and killing innocent Americans working
in other Arab or Muslim countries, as well? Ahmad: Everywhere!
We will kill them wherever they are, if they are living or working in
a Muslim country. We will search for them in Saudi Arabia, Turkey,
Algeria, Indonesia, Malaysia, Iraq, everywhere. Something else, don't
think Al Qaeda is the only group who is fighting the Americans. New
groups are created every day and everywhere. America cannot stop us.
Bush is the worst president in the whole world. Soon or later, we
will get him, if not now, next year, and if not next year, two years
from now, we will kill him even if it will take us 10 years! He is
already dead! Wait and see. Abou Hussein: We have the list of
all American employees who are working in Saudi Arabia and Iraq. We
will get them one by one. We know where they work, where they live,
we know everything about them. Peggy (talking to Abou
Hussein): Are you a Sunni or a Shiaa? Abou Hussein: I am a
Muslim. Ahmad:
"The Americans will kill Saddam first. Our
sources tell us that Bush and the CIA will assassinate him.
Abou Hussein:
"Bush has no
principles. Before, he wanted to kill Sader. Now, he promised him a
post in the Iraq new cabinet if he stops the fight."
Ahmad: Look, madam, if the Saudis will try to hurt us or stop us,
the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, boom, will disappear from the face of
the earth. We have very strong people and friends in the Saudi
government and in the royal family. Try to understand once for good,
the whole Arab world and every Muslim in the world is against America
because Bush destroyed Iraq. Ruth: Do you think Iraq was a
democratic country under Saddam Hussein regime. Ahmad: No
body is saying that. Try to understand. Bush made a big mistake. The
Americans came to Iraq and took Saddam. This is not my problem.
Actually, I never liked Saddam. He had many enemies in the Middle
East. Moubarak hated him. Al Assad hated him, Moamar Khazafi hated
him. The Saudis hated him. Everybody hated him. But Bush the son of a
dog, should have stopped bombing Iraq and killing the Iraqi people
when the Americans captured Saddam. Okkay, the Americans won the war,
Okkay, why didn't they leave Iraq after they captured Saddam? That
was their big mistake. Ruth: Do you want Saddam back? Ahmad:
No, we don't want him back. You can keep |
